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I don’t use TikTok but the “down” page mentioned you can still login to download data. What’s the cost and scope of providing that feature without US cloud providers?

A few weeks ago while giving a talk to some business school students, I was shocked to find most of the students and children of the faculty were homeschooled for K-12. This was a Baptist-affiliated university. I really had no clue this was so prevalent amongst evangelicals.


Agreed. I’m just thinking about NFL players who have crazy wardrobe leeway in and out of games, but somehow adhere to the minutiae of game time uniform codes. Not because of the insane attention they put into their craft, but because of clear financial or competitive penalties for doing otherwise (that impacts people and time invested in them).


That's because the team's equipment managers lay all of their gear out for them. I doubt any player could confidently answer a minutae-level question about the league's uniform policy.


Not totally true. All NFL teams have dress codes. Some of those players with flamboyant outfits actually pay fines every week. They justify the fines as part of the cost of promoting an individual brand over the team brand or image.


This is it. I’m not sure what manner of business you work in/at/for but I do feel that there is a set and forget expectation with enterprise software in startup land. Once you’ve been around the block a few times on finance/operations, you just expect that things might not work efficiently/automatically and build in safeguards. That isn’t to say that Carta can’t do better…


Just to add more context to the provided data. It provides mean nationwide SAT score numbers, and the provided comparison assumes that nationwide scores are reflective of Ivy applicant scores.

Also a per capita comparison assumes that the number of qualified applications follows similar distribution, no? I'm not sure if this is reflected in the provided data.

Also, the overall analysis assumes that per capita distribution is fair but that seems subjective. Even so, two schools skew the data for Black students (75% of Ivies are <1x per capita for Black students) and of course there is no mention of Hispanic students (one of the fastest growing demographics) which is mostly underrepresented on a per capita basis.

And then it doesn't get into international students and if/how they assimilate into a "race". Nor does it reflect stickier topics such as whether Hispanic students culturally assimilate into "White", effectively lessening their numbers under a per capita comparison (it does this for Jewish students).

I appreciate what the data brings to the conversation, but don't believe others' assertions have to take any of it into account considering the number of assumptions one must make to follow a "per capita" AND population SAT = sample SAT comparison.


> It provides mean nationwide SAT score numbers, and the provided comparison assumes that nationwide scores are reflective of Ivy applicant scores.

Does it really assume that? Suppose, for the sake of argument, one group had a nationwide average SAT score of 1500, and all other groups had an average SAT of just 500. Barring any bizarre distributions of those scores, we can infer from only the averages, that the 1500-SAT group would have more individuals that satisfy a university's academic criteria, than the 500-SAT groups. It's far from perfect, but does provide a hint.

> Also, the overall analysis assumes that per capita distribution is fair but that seems subjective.

I must have missed where in those charts a definition of 'fair' is given, and then relied on for further analysis.

> of course there is no mention of Hispanic students

Hispanic students are between Asian and Black on every chart.

> And then it doesn't get into international students

That is correct, international students are entirely excluded, in the sense that all the domestic students in a school are taken to represent 100%. I don't understand how not answering all these additional questions you raise makes the data irrelevant.


> Does it really assume that? Suppose, for the sake of argument, one group had a nationwide average SAT score of 1500, and all other groups had an average SAT of just 500. Barring any bizarre distributions of those scores, we can infer from only the averages, that the 1500-SAT group would have more individuals that satisfy a university's academic criteria, than the 500-SAT groups. It's far from perfect, but does provide a hint.

There’s no need to construct a hypothetical when there is actual data to dissect. For example, in the cited links, the 25th percentile SAT score for Harvard students is ~200 points greater than the highest mean nationwide score. The middle 50% of all students (25th-75th) range is ~100. And on 7 out of 10 students admitted included SAT scores in their application. So one would have to make additional assumptions (I’m not sure what they are) to claim one’s groups scores lead to penalty and another’s leads to advantage. It could be true, but I don’t see it as a fact, hence my original position that other assertions don’t necessarily need to meet some bar.


A lot of the nonsense comes from the bonkers categories. Hispanic origin is sort of like being Jewish from a statistical perspective - it’s a layer, not a state.

We’re also decades after civil rights. People don’t fit in these boxes.

My nephews dad is Irish, mom is black Puerto Rican. Racists would consider him black, his name is Irish, mom is of African and Spanish origin. They don’t speak Spanish at home or really have a deep connection to Hispanic culture. Wtf is he for the college demographic survey?

Likewise for my Filipino friends… are they Asian? Pacific Islander? This particular family speaks English, Tagalog and Spanish at home. Culturally they are very much into traditional Filipino traditions, but their Catholicism practice is close to Spanish style.


Came here to say this... The Black Count was such an illuminating read. It's surreal to think that Dumas' own father was the inspiration for writing Count of Monte Cristo.


Along these lines - the life story of Abram Petrovich Gannibal, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abram_Petrovich_Gannibal, who was Alexander Pushkin's great grandfather, is jaw-dropping incredible to me. I'm really surprised a Hollywood movie hasn't been made about him.


Just read this... yes, what an amazing HBO mini-series his life would make!


Amazing


Unless there were gaping liberties taken with facts in that book, I can't for life of me fathom how that book still hasn't been made into a movie yet. It's amazing how one person was at the right place at the right time and at the wrong place at the wrong time in two very extreme ways in one lifetime.


The wildest part of this is that Tan mimicked a lyric from a diss song (Hit Em Up), ostensibly in jest. Never mind that the release of that song was part of a conflict that ended with two rappers (2Pac & Biggie) dead.

Of all the diss tracks, he picks the one with allegations of sleeping with someone’s wife, making fun of someone’s health conditions, demeaning women, and of course repeated threats of death that eventually manifested in real-life murders.


> Ultimately parents and perhaps schools have to educate children on realistic dangers they can face both online and on street corners and supervise them until they are ready to responsibly use these spaces alone.

Agreed but I believe this is maybe 50% of the effective solution.

Ideologically I’d like to say 99% but the defense (educating children) is always reacting to the offense (predator tactics).

To affect the offense, the rules must change and that power rests with Meta (and to a lesser extent, one’s ability to ignore Meta products).


The Israeli govt can and should halt establishing new settlements or expanding existing settlements, especially when expansion is zero-sum with further displacement (e.g. Hebron). It can also enforce the criminality of extrajudicial settler violence.

Agreed any real solutions are a nonstarter in current situation, but a lack of imagination or will about how to move forward just further normalizes the illegality of it all.


STEM majors were 38% of Yale 2022-23 undergrad degrees. STEM + Econ - 48%. Arts & Humanities - 24%. Social Sciences - 38%

https://oir.yale.edu/data-browser/student-data/degrees/bache...


why would anyone bundle STEM and econ?


Because Econ in good schools is extremely math heavy and is obviously STEM-adjacent.


nah. just because it uses math doesn't make it stem adjacent. economics is not a science.


Mech.E + Econ here. As I recall after Intro to Micro and Macro, it was all calculus and statistical modeling.


How does that make it STEM? If I study social science and use math does that make social science stem? Or does it mean you used a lot of modelling in a non stem subject?


Social science is STEM by definition. The S stands for science.


you can name anything anything. Rename astrology as future science and that doesn't make it science. Social science is science like or science-y, but not science. Same with economics. They are heavy in math. They are math adjacent. They are not the study of math. They are a not a science. They are not engineering. economics is not STEM and grouping it with stem is weird.


Just because something has science in it doesn’t mean it actually is science. Political science, metaphysical science, spiritual science etc.


Because it’s basically applied math.


so is counting to 50 going up 5 at a time. that doesn't make it STEM. It's not a science.


3/4th of STEM isn’t science…


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