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What's the upside of moralizing energy consumption, especially once it's 100% renewable. Why not just let the market decide? If I'm paying for it, why does anyone else get a say in how I use it?





Isn't that kind of a non-sequitur? The claim made was that renewable energy would still be a finite resource to some degree. It's possible that the available energy surplus will be too big for any decisions about usage to matter, but that's a strong claim and you're doing nothing to make it here.

A lot of people believe in a higher power. If trusting in this supposed "market" brings you comfort and clarity in a complicated world, I do not begrudge you it. But invoking it doesn't address the claim it's answering

It's also clear that "the market" does not care enough about environmental impact to even do stuff like remove the current significant fossil fuel subsidies present in most government budgets, nor stop individuals or organizations from consuming or selling said fuels, natural gas, or plastic products at massive scales, so it's unclear why it would allocate energy in a way that didn't deprive crucial priorities.

Like the theodicy on the invisible hand's problem of environmental collapse ain't lookin' good is all I'm saying


> What's the upside of moralizing energy consumption, especially once it's 100% renewable.

Because of the reason I just explained above. 100% renewable energy does not mean that producing that energy does not have an environmental cost.

> Why not just let the market decide? If I'm paying for it, why does anyone else get a say in how I use it?

Because the "free market" does not internalize externalities (costs to shared resources like the environment, air quality, public health, etc.).


Focussing on pricing those externalities (tiny as they'll be in a 100% renewable world), through laws + policy, is a better strategy than trying to convince people not to use their electricity for <thing I personally don't value>.

I kind of agree with this sentiment , though we haven't reached 100% renewable ...



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